[Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins

Wed May 23 15:13:16 CDT 2018

I just wanted to send a belated thanks to all of you who took the time to provide feedback on my inquiry regarding plug-ins or tips to remove tone indexes.  We've got some investigating and experimenting to do on our end.

Scott and Tyler, can you recommend a particular EQ Plugin?  In addition to Hindenburg, we also have Sound Forge Pro v10.  (Side note: it looks like our Sound Forge came bundled with "iZotope 64-bit SRC and MBIT+ Dither plug-ins".  I'm not sure what any of that means but they're included. :))

Sincerely,
-Dan in Minnesota

From: studiotalk [mailto:studiotalk-bounces at islemail.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Johnson
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins

We also continue to use Sound Forge for editing due to its speed and ease-of-use. We routinely use a few of the plugins, including the iZotope plugins. One of my favorites is the iZotope declipper, which can mitigate some very nasty digital overmodulation when we aren't paying as much attention as we should have been. We also use iZotope RX5 - especially for noise reduction. It's far better than Sound Forge's offerings. I do like Hindenburg's leveler and voice profiler. Very useful! But we do very little actual editing in Hindenburg.

Ivan Johnson
Materials Development Coordinator
Braille Institute Library Services
igjohnson at brailleinstitute.org<mailto:igjohnson at brailleinstitute.org>

From: studiotalk [mailto:studiotalk-bounces at islemail.org] On Behalf Of Scholz, Scott
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 7:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins

I think Hindenburg is a terrible editor. We're continuing to use SoundForge in Nebraska for editing, which accepts most conventional pro-audio plugins, and features a number of very flexible plugins itself.

Removing index tones, for example: generally they're around 50 Hz tones, and you can simply make a 50 Hz notch filter with an EQ plugin and knock them right out of there. I think that generally works better than the comb-filtering technique that Dan is describing, which I use for more gentle background noise removal, a few db at a time.

Removing sibilance is doable with notched eq as well, but because the dominant frequency of the sibilance will be different for each narrator, it takes a more custom approach. In soundforge, I do some frequency analysis of the sibilant sounds I want to remove, and then adjust my notch to center over those frequencies. There is usually a strong fundamental frequency, and sometimes an overtone one octave higher, that need to be removed.

Thanks,

Scott Scholz
Director
Nebraska Library Commission
Talking Book and Braille Service
1200 N St Ste 120
Lincoln, NE 68508-2023
(402) 471-6553
scott.scholz at nebraska.gov<mailto:scott.scholz at nebraska.gov>

From: studiotalk <studiotalk-bounces at islemail.org<mailto:studiotalk-bounces at islemail.org>> On Behalf Of Malosh, Dan (MDE)
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 4:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins

We've been talking about Hindenburg plug-ins here in Minnesota as well.  Only I've been wondering if a plug-in exists that could remove the old tones from cassette/reel recordings.  You know, the tones that indicate a chapter or whatnot.  My pipedream would be that you could locate that specific tone and take a sample of it, and then the plug-in would scour the entire recording looking for instances of that pitch and then either flag them or remove them instantly.

Does anybody know if such a plug-in exists?  Or does anyone know of any non-Hindenburg programs that could do this?  It seems like a reasonably useful tool.  After all a fair number of commercial editors can remove cassette hiss and pops from vinyl records.  Why not be able to remove other pitches?

Just throwing this out there to pick the collective mind.

Thanks,
-Dan in Minnesota

From: studiotalk [mailto:studiotalk-bounces at islemail.org] On Behalf Of Duran, Christopher at CSL
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 3:52 PM
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Subject: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins

Good day everyone question,
For those of you using Hindenburg, is anyone using plug-ins?.........Is Hindenburg able to except plug-ins?
Wondering because I would really love to get a de-esser plug-in to  mellow out the sibilance I am getting on most all of my recordings.

Looking forward to your responses Thanks!

Christopher Duran
Audio/Visual Assistant
California State Library
(916) 657-3894
Christopher.Duran at library.ca.gov<mailto:Christopher.Duran at library.ca.gov>

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