[Studiotalk] studiotalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 20
James Langton
jameslangton at nypl.org
Thu May 24 11:21:17 CDT 2018
Thanks Ivan!
I did research *Graff of Newark* some months ago. I'm English originally,
and was amused to discover that the *Newark *in question was not the one
near us here in New York City (just over the Hudson River in New Jersey),
but Newark in the north of England, near to where I'm originally from.
I did speak to a very helpful gentleman at Graff of Newark, and I'm sure
their machines would work, but they're too rich for our blood right now,
costing several thousand dollars, more than NYPL would be willing to spend
I suspect.
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> 1. Re: analogue cassette to digital transfer (Ivan Johnson)
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> From: Ivan Johnson <igjohnson at brailleinstitute.org>
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> Subject: Re: [Studiotalk] analogue cassette to digital transfer
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> We use Telex equipment, soundcards and software but these are obsolete. Up
> until this year, there have been a series of high-speed cassette digitizers
> by a company called ?Graff of Newark.? We recommended these units to an
> organization that wanted to digitize their cassette library ? and they
> recently obtained a unit, along with software and soundcards from B&H Audio
> in NYC. I checked B&H just now and the specific unit for libraries is
> reported as ?no longer available.? You may be able to locate the same
> equipment elsewhere. Here?s the link to the old B&H offering:
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/562787-REG/Graff_Of_
> Newark_LC60554_4_Track_Library_for.html
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ivan Johnson
> Materials Development Coordinator
> Braille Institute Library Services
> igjohnson at brailleinstitute.org
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> We use an old model 424 Tascam PortaStudio, and yes, you?ll have to adjust
> the playback speed.
>
> The good news is, this is an easy fix, you just have to create a batch
> processing preset that you can use to adjust the speed / pitch of the
> digitized file(s).
>
> The other plus with the 424 PortaStudio is that it can output all
> 4-sides/channels simultaneously, so you can digitize an entire cassette (6
> hours of audio) in just a few minutes.
>
>
> * SMiles
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> A question for any of you who are transferring NLS cassettes from analogue
> to digital : what are you using for playback of the cassettes?
>
> I tried playing the cassettes on an old NLS cassette player but the sound
> quality is so awful (with incredible hum and background noise) that I
> abandoned that immediately.
>
> The solution seems to be an old 4-track cassette recorder or
> 'mini-studio', but many of them record/playback at DOUBLE speed, so I'm
> interested to know if there are specific brands/models that others are
> having success with.
>
> Thanks!
>
> James
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> Thanks Brian -
>
> I don't have any of the original reel-to-reel masters unfortunately. I
> would certainly be using them if I had. I only have cassette copies.
>
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> > From: "Bertucci, Brian (KDLA)" <brian.bertucci at ky.gov>
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> > Hi James,
> >
> > At the Kentucky Talking Book Library, we don?t use any cassettes for
> > analog to digital conversion ? you are right ? the noise floor is too
> high,
> > and quality can be poor. We have the original analog reel to reel master
> > tapes of the recordings, and so we are using those to do our A to D
> > conversions. Once we started baking our reel to reel tapes at low heat
> to
> > remove moisture, we have had excellent results getting playback without
> the
> > tape sticking to the play head.
> >
> > Ideally, when digitizing, it is best to use the master recording, or a
> > copy that has been copied the fewest number of generations. Each time an
> > analog recording is copied, more noise is added to the recording, so if
> you
> > try digitizing a cassette tape that would have gone out to patrons, that
> > would probably be a third generation copy. A master cassette would be
> > better, and the original session master tape would be best of all.
> >
> > If you do need to use cassettes, the C1 payer is probably going to be
> your
> > best bet? as you know, cassette TB are played at a tape seed twice as
> slow
> > as normal tape playback. I?m not aware of any commercial decks that can
> do
> > that. However, I think most of your noise problems are going to come
> from
> > the cassette copy itself, not from the C1 player (unless that particular
> > player is defective).
> >
> > Another possible source of noise could be how are you connecting the
> > player to your computer ? What audio interface are you using to input the
> > signal to your computer? The C1 headphone out jack might be a higher
> level
> > signal than regular line level, so setting levels correctly will keep
> > distortion, hum, and noise from being added at input. Is the bad hum and
> > noise audible from the C1 when listening by itself on headphones,
> > unconnected from the computer? If so, the noise is probably coming from
> > the tape itself. If the tape is fine listening standalone, but noisy
> when
> > recorded, you might have a signal level mismatch.
> >
> > If you need to use noise reduction, Adobe Audition has the best noise
> > reduction for taking away tape hiss ? Sound Forge also has something
> > similar, but results aren?t quite as good. Neither will be able to
> > completely erase tape noise, but you can knock it down a good amount ?
> > maybe enough to make a terrible recording listenable, if not pleasant.
> It
> > is important not to overdo noise reduction ? if used too much, it can
> > create artificial artifacts in the audio, making it sound hollow, like
> > talking through a tube.
> >
> > Brian Bertucci
> > Kentucky Talking Book Library Studio Coordinator
> > PO Box 537
> > 300 Coffee Tree Rd.
> > Frankfort KY 40602 -0537
> > (502) 564-1790
> > Brian.bertucci at ky.gov<mailto:Brian.bertucci at ky.gov>
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > From: studiotalk <studiotalk-bounces at islemail.org> On Behalf Of James
> > Langton
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:32 AM
> > To: studiotalk at islemail.org
> > Subject: Re: [Studiotalk] analogue cassette to digital transfer
> >
> > A question for any of you who are transferring NLS cassettes from
> analogue
> > to digital : what are you using for playback of the cassettes?
> >
> > I tried playing the cassettes on an old NLS cassette player but the sound
> > quality is so awful (with incredible hum and background noise) that I
> > abandoned that immediately.
> >
> > The solution seems to be an old 4-track cassette recorder or
> > 'mini-studio', but many of them record/playback at DOUBLE speed, so I'm
> > interested to know if there are specific brands/models that others are
> > having success with.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > James
> > --
> >
> >
> > James Langton| New York Public Library
> >
> > Manager, Audio Book Studio
> >
> >
> > Andrew Heiskell Braille and Talking Book Library
> >
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