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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Happy to weigh in! I stick to the native plug-ins in Adobe Audition. I’m guessing Sound Forge Pro v10 would have something that would work for you, though I haven’t used Sound Forge in a while.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’d say the main thing lacking in Hindenburg’s EQ tool is the ability to modify the bandwidth/Q for a given frequency. If I recall, you can move the center frequencies for the High/Mid/Low knobs
around but can’t modify the width of the curve. So if you try cut out a 50 Hz tone, you could also be affecting a wide range of frequencies above and below that as well, which you wouldn’t necessarily want.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">If you have an EQ plug-in that allows you to modify the bandwidth, you can create a notch filter (very narrow bandwidth) as Scott described and remove a specific frequency more surgically.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’d look in Sound Forge to see if there’s a Parametric or Paragraphic EQ plug-in. If it has a “Q” or “Width” parameter, you should be on the right track.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Tyler<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk [mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Malosh, Dan (MDE)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2018 2:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TBBS Recording Studio Info <studiotalk@islemail.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I just wanted to send a belated thanks to all of you who took the time to provide feedback on my inquiry regarding plug-ins or tips to remove tone indexes. We’ve got some investigating and experimenting to
do on our end.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Scott and Tyler, can you recommend a particular EQ Plugin? In addition to Hindenburg, we also have Sound Forge Pro v10. (Side note: it looks like our Sound Forge came bundled with “iZotope 64-bit SRC and
MBIT+ Dither plug-ins”. I’m not sure what any of that means but they’re included.
</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">J</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt">)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">-Dan in Minnesota<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk [<a href="mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org">mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ivan Johnson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 18, 2018 11:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> TBBS Recording Studio Info <<a href="mailto:studiotalk@islemail.org">studiotalk@islemail.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We also continue to use Sound Forge for editing due to its speed and ease-of-use. We routinely use a few of the plugins, including the iZotope plugins. One of my favorites is the iZotope declipper, which can mitigate some very nasty digital
overmodulation when we aren’t paying as much attention as we should have been. We also use iZotope RX5 – especially for noise reduction. It’s far better than Sound Forge’s offerings. I do like Hindenburg’s leveler and voice profiler. Very useful! But we do
very little actual editing in Hindenburg.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ivan Johnson<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk [<a href="mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org">mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scholz, Scott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 18, 2018 7:19 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think Hindenburg is a terrible editor. We’re continuing to use SoundForge in Nebraska for editing, which accepts most conventional pro-audio plugins, and features a number of very flexible plugins itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Removing index tones, for example: generally they’re around 50 Hz tones, and you can simply make a 50 Hz notch filter with an EQ plugin and knock them right out of there. I think that generally works better than
the comb-filtering technique that Dan is describing, which I use for more gentle background noise removal, a few db at a time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Removing sibilance is doable with notched eq as well, but because the dominant frequency of the sibilance will be different for each narrator, it takes a more custom approach. In soundforge, I do some frequency
analysis of the sibilant sounds I want to remove, and then adjust my notch to center over those frequencies. There is usually a strong fundamental frequency, and sometimes an overtone one octave higher, that need to be removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk <<a href="mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org">studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Malosh, Dan (MDE)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 17, 2018 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TBBS Recording Studio Info <<a href="mailto:studiotalk@islemail.org">studiotalk@islemail.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Studiotalk] Hindenburg-plug-ins<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">We’ve been talking about Hindenburg plug-ins here in Minnesota as well. Only I’ve been wondering if a plug-in exists that could remove the old tones from cassette/reel recordings. You know, the tones that
indicate a chapter or whatnot. My pipedream would be that you could locate that specific tone and take a sample of it, and then the plug-in would scour the entire recording looking for instances of that pitch and then either flag them or remove them instantly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Does anybody know if such a plug-in exists? Or does anyone know of any non-Hindenburg programs that could do this? It seems like a reasonably useful tool. After all a fair number of commercial editors can
remove cassette hiss and pops from vinyl records. Why not be able to remove other pitches?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Just throwing this out there to pick the collective mind.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">-Dan in Minnesota<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good day everyone question,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For those of you using Hindenburg, is anyone using plug-ins?.........Is Hindenburg able to except plug-ins?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wondering because I would really love to get a de-esser plug-in to mellow out the sibilance I am getting on most all of my recordings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward to your responses Thanks! <o:p></o:p></p>
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