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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would also agree to try to use the analog reel to reel masters first if at all possible. The cassette masters are going to have a much worse noise floor than the reel to reel masters. If you are digitizing
the cassette master, you are making a copy of a copy, (original tape noise from reel to reel machine, additional tape noise from copying to cassette, and noise from cassette machine coming back out to digitize). Sometimes the noise on a 3<sup>rd</sup> generation
cassette copy can be almost as loud as the voice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">KTBL had our reel to reel masters stored in non-optimal conditions for a long time – we have had great success keeping the reels from shedding and sticking during playback by cooking them in a low-heat toaster
oven (140 degrees) for a day to evaporate the moisture before playing them back. – Any hotter, and it won’t hurt the tape, but it will start to melt the plastic reels. We have had almost a 100% playback success rate since we started doing this.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If you are set on trying the cassettes, I would advise trying one as a test and see how bad the noise is. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#7B7B7B">Brian Bertucci<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Kentucky Talking Book Library Studio Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">PO Box 537<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">300 Coffee Tree Rd.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Frankfort KY 40602</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">-0537<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">(502) 564-1790<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:Brian.bertucci@ky.gov"><span style="color:#0563C1">Brian.bertucci@ky.gov</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk <studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Lewis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TBBS Recording Studio Info <studiotalk@islemail.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Studiotalk] Zing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You’re welcome Christopher.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would always urge digitizing from the original reel masters as they are far superior to the cassette sub-masters made from those original reels. The sound quality difference is almost always incredibly dramatic. We only ever digitize
from the cassette submaster when there is no available or viable reel master. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Even though our large reel master collection has been stored in an inhospitable warehouse environment with completely inappropriate climate controls, those reel masters are still a far better source from which to digitize. There is a consensus,
I believe, that reel masters stored in such bad conditions can return to a decent state enabling a good digitization transfer through simply bringing the reels into a better climate controlled environment for a brief period of time. We try to do such acclimatization
for at least a week or more before we then use the tried and true low-temperature baking process for a long time that can (temporarily for about a month’s time) reverse even some of the worst sticky-shed syndrome problems often created by reels being stored
in such bad environs. As before, if you have further questions about such processes, please don’t hesitate to ask.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would also like to echo and endorse John Mugford’s words of wisdom from his email reply to your question.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>SMiles<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk <<a href="mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org">studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duran, Christopher@CSL<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 16, 2019 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> TBBS Recording Studio Info <<a href="mailto:studiotalk@islemail.org">studiotalk@islemail.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Studiotalk] Zing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good Morning SMIles,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for getting back to me so soon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have been looking on line and asking my musician buddies if anyone has an old 4 track machine lying around (LOL)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Looks like that is going to be the best way to go, other than digging out the reel –reel masters which have been sitting longer than the cassette sub-masters.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for your input and have a great week.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">~Christopher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk <<a href="mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org">studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Lewis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 16, 2019 7:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> TBBS Recording Studio Info <<a href="mailto:studiotalk@islemail.org">studiotalk@islemail.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Studiotalk] Zing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Christopher.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Greetings from Austin, Texas.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We had to abandon Zing for those exact reasons several years ago.
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t know off-hand if anyone has managed to keep that hardware / software combo going past WinXP; I sincerely doubt it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are many other options for such digitization. Assuming you do not have the original reel-to-reel masters and only have these cassette sub-masters to work from, you could try finding an old Tascam PortaStudio 424 unit that would allow
you to output all 4 sides of a cassette simultaneously, into/through a variety of DAI (Digital Audio Interface) devices, and into a variety of audio software such as Sound Forge etc.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are a lot of details involved so feel free to contact me off-list if you want to talk more.
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">- SMiles Lewis</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> studiotalk <<a href="mailto:studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org">studiotalk-bounces@islemail.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duran, Christopher@CSL<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2019 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TBBS Recording Studio Info <<a href="mailto:studiotalk@islemail.org">studiotalk@islemail.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Studiotalk] Zing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Question, Is anyone still using the Telex Zing Versatile Audio Digitizer program to convert cassettes to a digital format with windows 10?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I.T. is pulling our computer that is running Zing because windows XP is the operating system and not supported anymore.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m wondering if I pull the sound card and put it in a newer computer running Windows 10, will Zing still work properly?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And if not, are there any other options (Hardware, Software) that folks are using?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks and have a great weekend!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">Christopher Duran</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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